Comments on: A grown-up conversation http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/ Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:31:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jamesk http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-29 jamesk Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:39:14 +0000 http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/?p=51#comment-29 @Tim: Aha! That's more or less exactly my response to your comment on <a href="http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/index.php/2008/05/finding-out-whats-best/#comments" rel="nofollow">Finding out what's best ...</a>. Great minds! @Tim: Aha! That’s more or less exactly my response to your comment on Finding out what’s best …. Great minds!

]]> By: Tim http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Tim Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:00:50 +0000 http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/?p=51#comment-27 Indeed you are right. I wonder if the problem comes back to the way we negotiate contracts with clients. It is usually project based and therefore leads to the client putting pressure on a projects cost. This sets up the relationship in the wrong way. Imagine instead we negotiated a year long contract for all the work, which lead to an amount of different peoples time that could be 'spent' during the year. Then we would be having discussions about the best use of that time, rather than discussions about the cost and timescale of a project. (And before you tell the PM that talked to you about the inevitable time/cost/quality triangle issue, the person doing the negotiation on cost/time with the client can never admit that poor quality would be delivered by the agency without watching the client walk out the door!). Indeed you are right. I wonder if the problem comes back to the way we negotiate contracts with clients. It is usually project based and therefore leads to the client putting pressure on a projects cost. This sets up the relationship in the wrong way.

Imagine instead we negotiated a year long contract for all the work, which lead to an amount of different peoples time that could be ’spent’ during the year. Then we would be having discussions about the best use of that time, rather than discussions about the cost and timescale of a project. (And before you tell the PM that talked to you about the inevitable time/cost/quality triangle issue, the person doing the negotiation on cost/time with the client can never admit that poor quality would be delivered by the agency without watching the client walk out the door!).

]]> By: Pete http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Pete Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:02:48 +0000 http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/?p=51#comment-17 There's no hiding on the internets. Actually, the domain was in your email address... not too hard to guess ;) There’s no hiding on the internets.

Actually, the domain was in your email address… not too hard to guess ;)

]]> By: jamesk http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-16 jamesk Fri, 30 May 2008 22:37:20 +0000 http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/?p=51#comment-16 Dang! How did you find me after all this time? Dang! How did you find me after all this time?

]]> By: Pete http://blog.flexiblediamond.com/2008/05/a-grown-up-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Pete Fri, 30 May 2008 16:18:00 +0000 http://blog.hoardinghopes.com/?p=51#comment-15 Bravo! Bravo!

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